I am finally in a position to have my ailing Beomasters repaired, but find myself in unfamiliar territory, but suffice to say this has been one heck of an education. However I need a bit more from you guys. I have checked out all sorts of shops covering virtually most of North America, and skipping those who weren’t interested for an assortment of unrelated reasons (excuses) here is what I’ve heard. One shop flatly told me my Beomaster 2400 wasn’t much of an amplifier and clearly was not worth rebuilding.
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Anyone agree with that, let me know? I think this is BS. To cut to the chase I have found two recommended shops who are anxious to restore my amplifiers and who appear to be excellent choices.
So the question is, which one? So here is my quandary. Out of the two promising shops one stated that the Beomaster 2400 was far and away a better amplifier than the Beomaster 4500. Any comments?
Since my BM 4500 powers up they say that means the computer works and the repair should not be expensive. They went on to say the 4500 was a lot simpler than the 2400 with its IC’s that do not fail and that the 4500 has LED’s in place of the light bulbs on the 2400 which do not need replacement. Any disagreement so far? The shop owner continues that “due to the age of your BM 2400, it is a ticking time bomb that is going to fail.” I doubt anyone would care to argue with that, although the little guy is still hanging in there. This shop wants to replace the expected transistors and capacitors throughout including the power supply, but in addition insists that the bass, treble, and balance pots MUST be rebuilt and wishes to do so. Personally I believe this shop, but I really would like to hear from you guys before I commit serious money to rebuild my Beomaster 2400.
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Navy blue B&O baseball cap, B&O T-shirt X2, B&O black ball point pen, B&O Retail Management Binder. Hi Geoff I remember a few people telling me the older directly coupled amplifiers have a sweeter sound in some instances than the newer chip based amplifiers. This all depends on the speakers you are powering. My Beomaster 1900 (almost the same as your 2400) powers my S45-2's with ease, however it does struggle a little with the S75's which are a little more demanding of power.
A 2400 powering large speakers at mid to high volume is likely to sound not as good as a 4500 powering large speakers at mid to high volume. So I would have a think about the speakers you intend to run and their impedance and make my decision based on that. When my technician friend repaired my BM1900 he said he was quite amused at the parts inside, nothing spectacular by any means, however once connected to some S45-2's he said he was amazed that the sum of the components in the amp produced such a sound.
I refurbished my BM 2400 changed Caps, lamps, trimmers and D50 rectifier.The 0D1 rectifier was changed for a 6 Amp type (bigger) slide poti´s cleaned and repaired, also the big caps C7/8 was changed. What I forgot was the caps in the remote receiver. After half a year the BM started jumping channels, that turned out to be a short from a TR to chassis, my failure, not checking properly the mounting washers. The BM has now been playing without problems for aprox.
I have a BG 2404 to match and love the design. As for your shipping cost. If you can slip over the boarder to the US, and ship from there, you should get it cheaper. Hi Geoff I remember a few people telling me the older directly coupled amplifiers have a sweeter sound in some instances than the newer chip based amplifiers.
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This all depends on the speakers you are powering. My Beomaster 1900 (almost the same as your 2400) powers my S45-2's with ease, however it does struggle a little with the S75's which are a little more demanding of power. A 2400 powering large speakers at mid to high volume is likely to sound not as good as a 4500 powering large speakers at mid to high volume. So I would have a think about the speakers you intend to run and their impedance and make my decision based on that.
When my technician friend repaired my BM1900 he said he was quite amused at the parts inside, nothing spectacular by any means, however once connected to some S45-2's he said he was amazed that the sum of the components in the amp produced such a sound. Hi Drew, This little Beomaster 2400 used to power Linn Isobaric speakers as well as McIntosh ML-2’s and it did so without the slightest hint of difficulty. Other than it got pretty hot.
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Today however it is mated to a particularly nice pair of S-45.2 speakers. The only amplifier I actually saw struggling was my Beomaster 4500 powering those God forsaken MC 120.2 speakers of mine. Kind of ran out of steam.
However that was entirely the fault of the speaker, not the amplifier, or even the combination. Odd that your technician was unimpressed by the insides of your 1900, as one of the many people I spoke with in regard to the 2400 told me “it wasn’t much, but sounded a lot better than it should.” More with less, sounds good to me. I will admit that super trooper than this 2400 has been, including two full resurrections, it has always been my least favourite amplifier doing nothing wrong, butt then again, nothing special. I am hoping my opinion will change after it is rebuilt, assuming I choose the right shop!
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Navy blue B&O baseball cap, B&O T-shirt X2, B&O black ball point pen, B&O Retail Management Binder. I refurbished my BM 2400 changed Caps, lamps, trimmers and D50 rectifier.The 0D1 rectifier was changed for a 6 Amp type (bigger) slide poti´s cleaned and repaired, also the big caps C7/8 was changed. What I forgot was the caps in the remote receiver. After half a year the BM started jumping channels, that turned out to be a short from a TR to chassis, my failure, not checking properly the mounting washers. The BM has now been playing without problems for aprox. I have a BG 2404 to match and love the design. As for your shipping cost.
If you can slip over the boarder to the US, and ship from there, you should get it cheaper. Beogram 4000, Beogram 4002, Beogram 4004, Beogram 8000, Beogram 8002, Beogram 1602. Beogram 4500 CD player, B&O CDX player, Beocord 5000 T4716, Beocord 5000 T4716, Beocord 8004, Beocord 9000. Beomaster 1000, Beomaster 1600, Beomaster 2400.2, Beomaster 2400.2, Beomaster 4400, Beomaster 4500, Beolab 5000, Beomaster 5000, BeoCenter 9000.
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Navy blue B&O baseball cap, B&O T-shirt X2, B&O black ball point pen, B&O Retail Management Binder. Hi Johan, In reply to your question, Benny says, “ The bass, treble balance pots are no longer available and they need to be rebuilt with shop produced spare parts. (I am the only one who can do that as far as I know.” My confidence level is pretty much maxed out. There are just too many people saying very positive things about this gentleman for there to be a likely problem.
Frankly I have been through too much not to have asked so many questions, but I asked, was told, and I have heard. Thank you everyone!! Beogram 4000, Beogram 4002, Beogram 4004, Beogram 8000, Beogram 8002, Beogram 1602.
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